Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.

But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!

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    FYI if you’re shooting tethered the live view functionality and performance of Capture One is infinitely better.

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    Had the powder and fuse primed for an Oh Brother Where Art Thou joke. Picture my mild fury when I noticed this is about cameras, not printers.

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    Vendor software is always a pile of shame. Can’t you just copypaste images?

    Edit: oh, mobile.

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    Yup, sucks. What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.

    Also faster than the app too. The app uses WiFi or Bluetooth. Its also annoyingly finicky to connect tk the camera.

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      The app was used for live view and also geotagging, in addition to file transfer. So this requirement affects several features.

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    A tip: you can build your own camera using a Raspberry Pi. There are kits. There are lenses and sensors which impress.

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      Bah just buy clip-on accessory lenses for your phone. Cheap and cheerful. There is/was? even a thread standard for these little monsters. I had a metal case for my S7 that had a threaded opening over the camera and I could screw in a macro lens or a 12x telescope. Got me all the ladies too. No it didn’t.

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      Did you know you can build your own nationwide internet?

      All you need to do is buy billions of dollars worth of gear and put it together yourself! It’s so easy!

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        Reminds me of some car restoration videos.

        “With the donation of a brand new, 100% rebuilt motor supplied by our friends at NAMEDROP CUSTOMS, we can get this build done for a cool $2k!”

        “and just like that! skips three weeks of footage, we’re done!”

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      Yes, the depth of field and image quality the camera kit sensors and lenses produce sure can match those produced by full frame sensors and lenses. And fuck Canon’s industry leading autofocus, OP can write their own autofocus algorithm too!

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    Yes indeed, I just wrote a rant about this in the Canon community on here.

    The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the “mandatory” account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera’s hardware has not changed.

    That’s what I did for now, but given that I only ever used the damn thing as an overwrought remote shutter button when doing macrophotography (you’ll never guess the subject), I just bought $6 aftermarket remote release and moved on with life.

    For added fun and excitement, if you don’t have internet connectivity the app won’t work. So, like, if you’re out in the wilds on a hike with your camera. Nobody ever does that, right?

    All apps are crap. This one is extra crap, now. I’ve never used it for geotagging and certainly not for transferring images – not more than once, anyway, because on my phone it takes a solid 15 seconds per image. It would be faster for me to not only take the card out, but crack it open and inspect it with a tunneling electron microscope and type the ones and zeroes into a terminal by hand. I just put the damn card in a reader instead. Always have done.

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    Oof, that is new, the camera connect app used to work without an account before.

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    Dude. I needed to use this app the other day for the remote shutter function, and I was somewhere with no signal and no internet. Only to discover that the app had updated and now required me to create an account to use it. I was pissed.

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    Are you sure? Thats not acceptable for most professionals so i doubt there is no way around it. Whats the modelname of your camera? How are you trying to access the files?

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      Are you sure?

      100% Canon announced this last month, ironically on April Fool’s Day!. Funny, that they say it makes the experience “more convenient and enjoyable”.

      Yeah, it was fine before, when you’d open the app, connect to your camera, and download the images.

      Whats the modelname of your camera? How are you trying to access the files?

      We’ve got several Canon cameras, and you cannot proceed to use the app unless you log in. This isn’t to allow for cloud storage or anything like this. This is to do ANYTHING through the app, including location data tagging, live view, etc.

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        So instead of just mounting the camera as storage, they require a proprietary app using a surveillance-packed web browser? Yeah, I’d be returning that pile of awful.

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          Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Why even need an app? The camera stores the pictures on an SD card anyway (probably). If the app is nice and has some extra features like being able to pick the best shot from a series, fine, but I somehow doubt that it does more than transfer pictures lol

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            It allows you to grab an image, develop the RAW, do a quick edit on your phone or tablet, upload to socials, share with friends, etc. If that’s your thing.

            You can also use it to geotag your photos/files automatically with the gps in your phone. It does firmware updates as well.

            Also does remote shooting including allowing you to change exposure settings without touching the camera. Useful for photo and video in that respect.

            I just uninstalled it. Going to keep using my usb-c hub with included SD card reader if I need to get at my media before I can get to a computer.

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    Canon is on my personal blacklist for decades. I bought a printer from them, not just a normal A4/legal, but a professional, wide one that uses rolls of paper, etc. I was unhappy with the state of the driver under Linux, so I called and asked for a programming documentation to write my own printer driver. Their opinion on Linux/open source was that “open source is theft of intellectual property”.

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      Their opinion is stupid, but I’m also not sure what you expected when you asked some random sales rep for deep technical info.

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        I contacted both technical support for commercial systems and later their booth on a big technical trade fair (CeBit Hannover), and got basically the same opinion both times. The first was definitely no “Sales Rep”, and the people at the booth were a manager and an engineer.

        But I agree, their opinion is stupid.

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      I wonder how many open source libraries their driver codebase relies on, it had best be zero with that attitude.

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    Canon still exists? People still use dedicated cameras? I found Canon hardware to be overrated, scanners to cameras to printers. All shit in one way or another. And their software, my god, the cruft.

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      Yes dedicated cameras are still around. They aren’t going away anytime soon. I really like my Fuji camera.

      Canon makes great optics and decent hardware but is pretty bad at everything else.

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        Having never been a photo nerd or enthusiast, I am in the “good enough” camp. I’ve given up a long time ago on the “metrics bullying” and gatekeeping, electronics have reached such a level of performance and low price, everything is the same to me. If you see neutrinos, great!

        Do you ever actually take pictures of anything remotely interesting or worthwhile, or is it just an object you can talk about endlessly and upgrade continuously?

        It’s like audio, at some point is it about listening to music or buying new speakers?

        Have I mentioned I’m old?

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          Photos like these aren’t going to be possible on a phone camera. There’s still a lot of physical limitations to phones, namely low light and high aperture glass. Due to space constraints you’re extremely limited with sensor and glass size, which is where professional cameras still blow phones out of the water.

          If all you’re doing is taking selfies and pictures of things you see around you then a phone is fine, but once you’re beyond that, it’s much more efficient to go to a dedicated camera.

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          I do use it, probably one shoot or so a month. out of every 100 pictures I probably have one great one and 10 others that would be good with editing but I never go back and edit them. A phone is probably better for most people most of the time but there are definitely cases where it wont do the job.

          I initially bought it when I worked over night shifts and wanted a night time hobby on the weekends, so I wanted to do deep space photography. I finally got on days soon after and am not up as late anymore so mostly take it on hikes, or birding and rarely around the city.

          I rarely talk about it unless I show a picture that people ask “how’d you take that?” and I have to explain. I’ve bought a few lenses in 5 years but think I’m set on those. Maybe in another 5 years I’ll upgrade the body. For me it’s been a worthwhile investment.

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          Who’s the one bullying and gatekeeping here?

          I’m not a camera nerd either, but I recognize that there’s people that need professional hardware either for a professional use or an obsessive hobby (either photog or other electronics or optics work). If a cell phone is “good enough” for me, that doesn’t mean it’s good for a specialist. Just like pretty much everything else in life.

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        I don’t need pictures of neutrinos or every individual quark of my cat. We passed the “good enough” stage a long time ago. Point, shoot, digitally hoard pictures for no reason, the end.

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          I get that, but the post doesn’t try to make an argument on using a camera over the phone camera. There are plenty of cases where the picture quality just doesn’t do. Personally I own s few cameras I use for special locations, parties, holidays, travel, to have the best pictures possible to have long lasting memories.

          Even when I carry my gear around, my wife and In-laws take pics with there phones, and that’s ok too.

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          Good thing that’s not the only thing cameras are used for. Good enough for Jimmy on vacation isn’t good enough for large scale prints, marketing, etc

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    Forward it to Louis Rossman. He’ll make an entire video about it and add it to the wiki tracking these scummy companies.

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      I agree with pretty much all of that guy’s takes, but he REALLY sketches me out for some reason. I don’t know what it is.

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          I don’t think that’s it… I and almost every single one of my friends are on the spectrum hahaha. It’s something else, like he tastes like a right-leaning secret prepper guy or something. I dunno. Maybe I’m just being stupid and judgy.