Or you could juat make it so no one has the right to govern others. Then you wouldn’t have to take people’s rights away just cause they have beliefs different than yours, like you are suggesting. A problem in this world is people only seem to think about taking things away and punishing people to solve a problem, which doesn’t work.
I’ve never seen someone explain how liberal democracy and capitalism can work on a large scale with billions of people. The issue with your logic though is it doesn’t need to. Billions of people do not need to work together all at the same time and don’t need to all be included on every plan, decision, or whatever. It doesn’t need to work on a scale larger than it is able to work at because the foundation of power originates from the bottom and stays there, it is organized horizontally. Hierarchy is what isn’t scaleable as it requires deeper and deeper layers of bureaucracy the more it grows.
By human nature, a lack of authority will lead to people seizing said authority. And / or the collapse of society due to lack of social services, since nobody’s paying for them. Nobody needs to explain how liberal democracy and capitalism can reach a stable state, we’re living in it. Nobody’s ever seen a stable state of anarchy, hence the need for an explanation.
Yeah you are right, I am living in it right now and it fucking sucks and doesn’t work. I am watching it descend into fascism because that is the inevitable cycle of capitalism and liberal democracy. If you want examples of anarchism working internally you can look at the CNT-FAI of the Spanish Civil War and how they organized, or the currently existing Zapatistas. Fact of the matter is anarchism hasn’t failed because it doesn’t work as a method of organization, it hasn’t worked because they haven’t been able to defend themselves when they end up having to fight a war on multiple fronts. Which if you are going to criticize anarchism, that is where you do it. In its ability to defend itself when its being attacked on all sides and its tendency to end up in that position in the first place.
Then they should be educated out of those ignorant views, not have their rights restricted. What are you gonna do when some wannabe fascist decides that “basic voting condition” means believing that trans people don’t exist, that climate change is a hoax, and that the ultra-wealthy shouldn’t pay any taxes actually?
That crap was insanely convoluted. Perhaps he could still use a relatively simple test to ensure people have basic voting condition.
Like, there are people alive who believe both parties are the same.
Or you could juat make it so no one has the right to govern others. Then you wouldn’t have to take people’s rights away just cause they have beliefs different than yours, like you are suggesting. A problem in this world is people only seem to think about taking things away and punishing people to solve a problem, which doesn’t work.
So, anarchy? I’ve never heard a good explanation of how that would work on a widespread basis with billions of people.
I’ve never seen someone explain how liberal democracy and capitalism can work on a large scale with billions of people. The issue with your logic though is it doesn’t need to. Billions of people do not need to work together all at the same time and don’t need to all be included on every plan, decision, or whatever. It doesn’t need to work on a scale larger than it is able to work at because the foundation of power originates from the bottom and stays there, it is organized horizontally. Hierarchy is what isn’t scaleable as it requires deeper and deeper layers of bureaucracy the more it grows.
By human nature, a lack of authority will lead to people seizing said authority. And / or the collapse of society due to lack of social services, since nobody’s paying for them. Nobody needs to explain how liberal democracy and capitalism can reach a stable state, we’re living in it. Nobody’s ever seen a stable state of anarchy, hence the need for an explanation.
Yeah you are right, I am living in it right now and it fucking sucks and doesn’t work. I am watching it descend into fascism because that is the inevitable cycle of capitalism and liberal democracy. If you want examples of anarchism working internally you can look at the CNT-FAI of the Spanish Civil War and how they organized, or the currently existing Zapatistas. Fact of the matter is anarchism hasn’t failed because it doesn’t work as a method of organization, it hasn’t worked because they haven’t been able to defend themselves when they end up having to fight a war on multiple fronts. Which if you are going to criticize anarchism, that is where you do it. In its ability to defend itself when its being attacked on all sides and its tendency to end up in that position in the first place.
Slippery slope. Today it’s ‘Can you read?’, tomorrow it’s ‘Please explain the history of the Republican party in great detail’.
Then they should be educated out of those ignorant views, not have their rights restricted. What are you gonna do when some wannabe fascist decides that “basic voting condition” means believing that trans people don’t exist, that climate change is a hoax, and that the ultra-wealthy shouldn’t pay any taxes actually?