And to think that this was the first election when she was even of age to vote…

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    A belief in an invisible wizard in the sky that grant wishes and subject you to eternal torture if you don’t both believe in him and love him is incompatible with reality

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      It’s just as compatible as imagination and fairy tails as long as you don’t force your beliefs on others, or make decisions that impact others based on those beliefs.

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        Imagination and fairytales are recognized as not being real. The same can’t be said for religion.

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      As long as they aren’t believing every small thing that happens is due to the actions of said sky wizard, I’m not seeing the incompatibility. Also, I’m agnostic, so if you’re trying to get a raise out of me don’t bother.

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        As long as they aren’t believing every small thing that happens is due to the actions of said sky wizard

        That’s what religion is.

        As for trying to get a rise out of you, your agnostic. How can I offend you when you don’t even know what you believe?

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          No, that’s what some people think religion is. You’re describing a subset of Christianity, which is in itself a subset of religions. Just because it may apply to a large number of Americans doesn’t make it the norm everywhere.

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            You just said that’s not religion, then you told me it is religion. It can’t be both.

            No wonder you’re agnostic.

            It sounds to me like you’re trying to excuse the mystical and magical beliefs in fairytales of some people just because they don’t happen to be Christians.

            It’s all ancient mythology made up thousands of years ago. There’s no fact or science in it because it isn’t real.

            But, if you wanna try to prove any of your magical, mystical beliefs, go ahead. people I’ve been trying for thousands of years and no one has been able to do it.

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              But, if you wanna try to prove any of your magical, mystical beliefs, go ahead

              What magical mystical beliefs? You just pointed out I’m agnostic. By definition, I’m the one waiting for proof.

              It’s all ancient mythology made up thousands of years ago. There’s no fact or science in it because it isn’t real.

              Nobody in this thread claimed it’s real. The only claim was that they’re not necessarily mutually exclusive with reality. Buddhism for example believes in reincarnation of souls. Good luck proving a negative with that one.

              Honestly, militant atheists like you give the rest of us nonbelievers a bad look. You’re like that one vegan who keeps calling everybody Hitler.

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                I don’t have to prove a negative. Because that’s not how this works. People like yourself with the mystical magical beliefs must prove that they are true. Otherwise, they’re just mystical magical beliefs and not real. Because that’s how logic works.

                And, are you an agnostic or an nonbeliever? Cause he can’t be both. It’s clear that you’re just here to troll and engage in bad faith because you don’t like your mystical magical beliefs challenged. So, instead of any logic, fact, or reason, you just respond with name-calling. Like a child would.

                I suggest you take your insecurities elsewhere. I’m just gonna block you.

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                  And, are you an agnostic or an nonbeliever? Cause he can’t be both.

                  Oh great, I ended up arguing with somebody who isn’t even familiar with the meaning of the term.

                  Agnostic: one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god.