I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Cant seem to see this as a bad feature. Accounts on the internet are way too anonymous and bots are swarming every social media
In what way is anonymity bad on the internet?
It pushes extremism and rudeness for example
Plenty of people do that with their personal information on full display.
And plenty of people commit murder without guns so they dont need to be banned?
When you’re done with that strawman, can I borrow it to put in my field please?
Sorry to break this to you, but the people writing bots can also get over this barrier very easily - see that link to the faceswap in this thread? That makes it possible for every person with a bit of tech understanding or at least a bit of persistence to ignore this. it’s not even a speed bump for people whose job (yes, job) it is to write bots.
This does nothing to make the bots go away, but it gives Meta a full facescan, which is the fucking last thing to hand over to anyone - a data breach at Meta would mean that everyone around you will get scammed by videocallers with your face; not even your bank manager would be able to detect that something is off if he knows you personally (a short phone call with you to get a voice snippet makes the illusion perfect!)
The political shenanigans in the US are also a reason to NOT give facescans out to anyone.
The solution to bots does not lie in giving up your anonymity. There are no shortcuts here that don’t do more harm than good.
Dont get me wrong, Im not saying I would do a facescan for Facebook. I cant understand how anyone in the whole world would still consider using facebook at this point. All Im saying is anonimity is getting out of hand and the fascists are making very good use of it
anonymity is not the issue when you have people posting fascist shit using their real name without consequences.
Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!
I’ll start us off.
One used Nike shoe - size 13 - $40
Used Nike shoe. Left foot only. Mild grass stains and small hole in sole that can be easily repaired. Cash only. No low ballers.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
use a VPN in Helsinki with fake ID to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennessee.
2025, everyone.
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
Edit: apparently I’ve angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don’t even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay’s lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don’t even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it’s all a giant multi-corporate game that’s been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different “out of the box” storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji “honest”. They’ve gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I’m not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I’m very biased towards the seller’s perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It’s been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I’m not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don’t know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don’t know what’s needed here.
TLDR?
Stop using that shit, your life will be better for it.
It’s going to require DNA samples in my lifetime.
Somehow I find it very disconcerting, that you didn’t write “our” lifetime.
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You know what’s funny about that? Facebook banned me several months ago claiming a problem with community guidelines despite the fact that I was only using it to connect to an app that required it to save progress.
Leave it to Fuckerberg
