Summary

Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

  • garretble@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    “trump to discuss bringing back ever terrible disease we got rid of or mitigated in the 1900s with RFK Jr.”

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what’s happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

      I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we’re stupid as fuck.

      • Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Our schools have been under attack by the usual shitheads ever since we won to get them integrated.

        Smart comfortable people don’t obey. Uneducated, poor people with two jobs and three kids don’t have any energy left over to crack a book and be disruptive.

  • eran_morad@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Okay, idiot republicunts. You happy now? Not only are eggs going to be MORE expensive because of bullshit tariffs, but your kids are going to die from measles and shit. Way to go, cunts.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      To be fair, the price of eggs will likely be more affected by bird flu which will spread uncontrollably, since Trump will abolish all common sense regulations.

    • dhork@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Not their kids, they can afford the vaccines at list price. It’s the poors who will die, as Supply Side Jesus intended.

      • eran_morad@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        All those hillbilly fuckbrains who voted for trump? All those suburban moms who voted for a rapist? Nah bruv, those people can’t afford a $1200 vaccine or whatever the fuck. The traitor oligarchs can, sure. Perhaps they will meet their fate via a different route, nahmean?

    • blattrules@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      They won’t know about it until it personally affects them, then they’ll play the victim card.

  • K3zi4@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That’s crazy. Good luck America.

    • rational_lib@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      It’s been anticipated throughout the campaign, but kind of got overshadowed by all the other horrible stuff about Trump. RFK Jr. is the biggest anti-vaxxer in the world. Trump ran with him openly to get his cult on his side. This is the obvious result.

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    It’s interesting to see how much he will fuck up the country. I mean, terrifying, of course, but interesting too.

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Yes it must be the vaccines that are causing autism rates! Ignore the studies and decades of evidence that show they don’t, because they definitely do!

    It’s not all the micro plastic pollution, or car pollution, or chemicals in our water, or hormones in our food, no it’s definitely the vaccines!

    • This message is brought to you by Karen and Cletus
    • NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Even if there was anything real about the claim that vaccinations increased autism rates, using that as a justification to stop vaccinations would still be a crazy stance. Autism is not a deadly disease, but many of the things we vaccinate against are.

  • BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I hope at least a sizeable chunk of Trump voters regret voting for him. It breaks my heart to know that there are legitimately people who have paid attention to all his lies and already broken promises and still want the guy to lead the country. I don’t know how to salvage someone like that.

      • Railing5132@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        I don’t think this is going to work. There are just as many younger trump/cultist/conservative voters now as there have been. Church attendance is not falling off and megachurches are getting more and more popular. People have been saying the same thing about the right-wing die-off as long as I’ve been a voter, and as much as I’d love to see it, I don’t see it happening.

        • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Church attendance is not falling off

          It is, but far too slowly.

          And it’s falling off faster in the more moderate churches than it is in the noisy evangelical megachurches

    • WeUnite@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      I researched this exact question. There is a way called deep canvasing https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-to-change-a-voters-mind-is-deep-canvassing/

      It’s scientifically proven. Try having a one on one conversation with someone. Listen to what they say and respond with empathy. Then gradually and calmly introduce your message that is related to what they said. For example if the person you are talking to said they are worried about grocery prices and specifically egg prices you could mention that bird flu was the root cause of the price increase and that Trump’s tariffs will raise prices on groceries. Building trust helps your message get across. I’ve had personal conversations with Trump supporters who trust me and you’d be surprised how much success you can have.

      • indomara@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        This is correct, I use this method a lot in my work with the disabled. Often with clients that struggle with mental health, it’s important to redirect negative thoughts and feelings, but you have to do this without jumping to condescending or infantilising language.

        The easiest way is to empathize with <negative thought or feeling> acknowledging it as worthy of the space it’s taking up and offering up something related that I might worry about. Then redirect with a similar subject, but framed in a way that gives more power over it. Maybe a news article that pointed out how <related thing> is being solved by someone, or overcome, or even simply made fun of.

        If you can laugh at something for being ridiculous it has less power.

        You don’t need to change their belief in <negative thought or feeling> you just need to redirect it and reframe it, they will then have a different mental relationship with it later, and over time change.

  • sunbytes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Suddenly it’s an elective procedure and no longer covered by insurance.

    Though I guess it may get more expensive for insurers to cover the unvaccinated so the market might actually win out with that one…

  • ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Kill the department of education and force religious curriculum. This whitewashing will hide the history of slavery and make indentured servitude a normal way of life. If you tell them Jesus said it, they will believe it because they can’t read or just don’t care to take the time and do it. Religion is about blind faith in something that may or may not exist. It is a form of control over those with little to lose.

    Ban vaccines so people are sick and weak. Make all other health care unaffordable. Make them starve by inflating prices. Make their bodies weak to avoid physical conflict. They can’t hurt you when they are barely able move or care for themselves.

    End sex education and ban abortion. People are going to get sick and die constantly. You will have a population falloff preventing any increase to your wealth and power if you don’t force them to have kids faster to fill the labor pool.

    Keep their wages low so you can buy out their housing. Force them to be reliant on you to put a roof over their heads. Make them work multiple jobs at little pay just to afford this rental housing. Having no home is a real killer of hope.

    Pit them against each other. Crime is up, must be the illegal immigrants! They are taking all your jobs! That black guy down the street is going to steal you stuff and your women. That Jew works at the bank and is the reason you can’t get a raise or a loan. Your neighbor is your enemy and They will take everything you have if don’t have a gun to protect yourself.

    I’m could keep going down the rabbit hole, but why bother. These assholes want us back in 1800’s where the rich control and own everything.

    Don’t let them fool you. The rich control both parties in this country. It’s just that one side doesn’t give a fuck about being open about what they are doing or public perception.

    I am not condoning violence, but this is where we are going to end up shortly if the rich stay comfortable. Freedom isn’t free, and we are almost out of fight due to apathy. Average people care more about what some ass clown doing in their social feeds than seeing what is about to slap them right in the face.

  • mired_sight@lemmynsfw.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    So, what do we DO? Quick vacations abroad to get vaccines and prevent our kids from dying? Or just accept life as long as possible before the 2027 polio outbreak causes a lovely descent into chaos?

    • WhatSay@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      Much like women seeking health care across state lines, it may be required to travel to another state for vaccinations, and depending on supply and cost, perhaps traveling to another country would be practical.

      As for outbreaks, either wear a mask and avoid crowds, or have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.

      • mired_sight@lemmynsfw.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        … have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.

        I can’t imagine any country is super excited for American refugees

        • WhatSay@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Yeah, most of the world has decided they don’t like refugees. Best bet is probably to pretend to be a tourist.

  • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    I guess Trump wants to eradicate the American population? How does this make them money?

    A new period of prohibition begins. How do I buy vaccines illegally?

    • hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      Well, if America is no longer a superpower, then Putin and all his oligarchs buddies are planning on sweeping up the spoils of its ruin for themselves.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      Likely Elon Musk and some other people are covert eugenicists. A lot of eugenicists work with Lysenko-style “genetics”, and think generations surviving deadly diseases will bring forward a smarter and stronger humanity,