2 pizzas, a small order of breadsticks, and wanted to splurge and get cinnamon sticks.
Pizzas are a “Buy one get one deal!” at 13 bucks a pizza. Figured what the hell, I’ll splurge on desert then with the deal. Get to checkout… hold on a minute… 50 dollars for pizza?! Wait a minute 80 dollars after fees and taxes?!
Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash. I’m not spending 80 dollars on freaking pizza. I’ll just go pick it up and spend a quarter of that price.
At least I would have saved the $3 dollar delivery fee. Phew. Thanks DoorDash.
Few questions:
How far away is the pizza place? Do you live in a remote area? What time of day is it? What are the driving conditions like (snow/rain/other hazards)?
You say you can just pick it up for a quarter of that price. Then go pick it up? Is there anything preventing you? Not saying this is reasonable on DoorDash’s end, but there’s a ton of information we’re missing here. So I don’t understand how people can jump to certain conclusions this quickly.
Unless they’re a hundred miles away, I don’t see how $30 in pizza goes up to $80 for delivery.
I still find it crazy thinking that people are rich enough to pay for services like this.
Rich people don’t pay for stupid shit like this, it’s how they stay rich.
My sister uses doordash and there’s always something wrong. Yet she insists on trying again and again, and I can’t understand why.
I have never used them or Uber or others like this, and refuse to do so. They exploit their workers, they charge exorbitant fees, and when something’s wrong, it’s nobody’s fault.
If I want food, I go get it myself. I’m my own delivery boy! And contrary to a lot of people delivering food, I will not park on a sidewalk or in a bike lane.
I have a friend who hates grocery shopping, so they get their food delivered, but then constantly complains about nonsensical substitutions. They’re not wrong that the substitutions don’t make sense, but there’s a really easy way to ensure you get exactly what you want…
The one thing I will say positively about DoorDash is that when something is wrong with the order, it is really easy to report it and receive fair credit in the app instantly.
I’ve been trying to order directly more often, to avoid fees and tips, and if something is wrong it’s almost always a hassle to get any kind of credit without going back to the store in person. I barely want to go in the first place, so having to go back just to get $3 doesn’t really make sense.
That’s their model, they make everything easy and take the loss. But after everyone started using them, they can do whatever they want.
I remember 10 years ago a collegue is telling me that that Amazon was great. You order something, it arrives and if there is an issue with the order, you can order a replacement by yourself and it will arrive before even you returned the first item. Few weeks ago I had an issue with an order and you need to contact the customer service for a solution. Chat was not working, you can request a call back but it wasn’t working either, they give you a number to call but it isn’t working. 4 years ago it was much easier to contact them.
Agreed. At some point in your life, time becomes the biggest luxury, so I very much prefer spending a couple of extra bucks on higher quality stuff to the hassle of returning cheaply made junk.
Dweebs can’t leave their bubble to actually go pick it up. Fuck these crazy food delivery fees. Fuck the dweebs .
When you do the math it makes sense that is the cost. None of the pizza places dropped their price when they stopped doing delivery, and the price the private delivery services are doing at least double the pizza place’s delivery price.
Most places like a pizza shop are going to split 3 ways between food, staff and other overhead. On a $15 pizza we are talking about $5 split between the cook and the delivery person so lets say $3 is adding into every pizza for delivery costs.
On a $50 purchase you’re seeing $10 for delivery from the pizza place and then an additional $20 for the private.
Goddamn, liberals are just so fucking gullible.
Because people are dumb to pay the price for delivery from a private service? Or because they understand how a business is run?
I never use the service because I’m not going to waste money when I can just got get it myself.
Because you believe that it costs $20 per user per use to run a fucking app that still screws over the actual worker, even when you admit that when delivery costs were baked in to the pizzas it didn’t increase the price of the pizza that much.
And you believe it simply because that is how much it costs, while also not being aware of the actual reason behind the price point:
The service is worth what people will pay for it.
You rube by two economic standards.
You’re talking about economic systems, that isn’t what i was talking about. I was talking about how pricing works. So before you get all hot about it maybe learn the difference
I wasn’t making an assumption on the actual cost and who gets the money. I’m just saying people seem dumbfounded when they hear the price of a pizza at $15 and then see a $6 delivery fee from a 3rd party and think OMG thats expensive. You were paying the pizza place half that on ever pizza even when you eat there, and then you have a business who gets no pay for the pizza unless you get it delivered so if course they are going to charge even more for delivery.
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My favorite Pizza place in Germany has their own delivery cars. It might take some time to arrive, but you pay 30€ for 2 large Pizzas + 4€ for the delivery if your are located in the same city… 34€ total… Add a 2€ tip (tips are usually an extra and not their main income in Germany) and enjoy the Pizza… Easy…
A local burger joint here has created their own App-Service, with much better pricing and conditions for both sides. Nowadays their main gig is selling the App to other restaurants and the burger joint is just the side gig.
My favourite Pizza place here in Copenhagen also went back to having their own delivery car and bike, to get rid of Wolt (biggest delivery service here). Delivery price and time has improved dramatically.
Why did we sacrifice all these services to stupid apps to begin with?
Probably because the only way of ordering was (and sometimes is) via telephone. Ordering via app or website was rare before the delivery platforms came and created a monopoly…
Ive deleted all those apps. They really got greedy. And the crazy part is I think I remember the government giving them money for grocery delivery.
I dont get it.
Yeah, every few months we might get something delivered (sometimes on a rainy day for example), but we made a rule about picking up food once food prices started rising and it the delivery was adding $20 to the orders.
The greed during covid exploded. especially where companies felt people were stuck/captured, like delivery services.
I wouldnt be surprised if they start dying soon from their short term profits from gouging running out.
Your driver would have been paid a total of
$6.50$5.00 on that order.Thank you for canceling.
Part of that fee is the “Seattle drivers fee”, which is supposed to go to the drivers, but they’ve been very shady about that, and the tipping algorithm was not adjusted at all when they rolled it out. They were also really shitty at the time blaming greedy drivers and the mean old city for forcing them to pay their drivers… and that’s when I stopped using them for good.
What is standing in the way of an open alternative to these services? Both customers and workers getting a terrible deal, you’d think anyone would switch to something else at the first opportunity
Turns out hiring a cab for your pizza is expensive, who would have thought. Personally when ordering out, I always choose pickup, and fortunately can bike to most places to pick it up. If the weather is too shitty to bike, why would I want to put a delivery driver in those conditions.
The alternative isn’t an open platform, but maybe prioritizing 10 minute city in urban environments where you don’t need a car to get/deliver everything you need
My dad drives for Uber Eats and Skip the Dishes. He basically makes all his money in shitty weather. During the summer, when it’s gorgeous out, nobody places any orders. He ends up sitting in the car for hours doing nothing!
I guess I should clarify that I’ve never used DoorDash or Uber Eats, but for restaurants who have their own delivery people, it’s almost always via someone on an electric bike where I live, so rain or snow is not fun for them.
Someone would need to host and manage that thing, in the case of dispute. For the gig worker, they would need someone to know that these alternatives exists, and that require marketing and marketing cost money.
But i bet someone can make a cooperative of this service and only run locally, and restaurant and delivery worker can both help promote their alternative.
At least some local alternatives sort of like that do exist, eg. https://www.noshdelivery.co/about_us. But yeah, there is the issue of managing it and overhead since I guess probably part of what they do is vetting and dispute resolution, so it might be hard for it to be more decentralized. Maybe eventual convergence on shared tools and protocols though?
As someone who is disabled and known people who are disabled, we don’t have the luxury of going out to eat as it is incredibly hard on us, I don’t use them but if I want to get nice food from a restaurant I really don’t have a choice besides delivery and there’s not a lot of places that do delivery without these apps (and some places hide that it’s doordash and say it’s there own)
For one of the people I knew in the past who couldn’t cook there own food because of there disabilities, they heavily relied on doordash type services and they barley ate because being disabled means your incredibly poor, but this anti human society doesn’t care about disabled people.
Yeah, my Mom is mobility impaired and these services were fantastic for her quality of life, in the beginning. However now she not only can’t afford them, she refuses even if someone else pays - I can send $100 for a meal, it she’s horrified at the idea of paying that for me meal for one person
At least grocery deliveries are still ok in her area
I don’t understand how all of these delivery services are so popular when everyone is saying how high the cost of living is. People have money to blow on delivery fees?
FWIW my teen does. For him it’s a combination of things not available on campus and he’s always sent money as soon as he gets it. But he doesn’t have any expenses so …
…so bad parenting?
Easy really. The shop has one parking space which is occupied by their delivery driver. The next nearest parking space is half a mile away through a dark alley and you have to pay, but it takes so long to pay that you get fined. The shop itself is freezing because the door doesn’t shut properly. It’s also a ten mile drive away, down wide fast roads, or at least roads that would be fast if they weren’t infested by ridiculously low average speed cameras which mean you have to crawl all the way there and back or risk getting fined again. Then when you get home you discover you’ve been fined for the last time you parked somewhere and overstayed by a whole nanosecond.
That’s how it is in the UK anyway. And politicians wonder why town centres are dying.
It is your opinion town centres are dying from not enough parking space?
This used to be the mainstream opinion back in the sixties, but nowadays basically any “revitalisation” programme will be removing asphalt, because small business health has been shown to be correlated with how well connected the area is to public transport, and how pleasant it is to loiter in.
Yes. Those people consider things like this part of the “cost of living”, not the luxury that it is.
On average, people have more of an issue overspending than they do underearning. That’s why even among people making six figures, 1 in 4 of them live “paycheck to paycheck”, which people assume to mean ‘barely make enough to make ends meet’, but what more commonly means ‘deliberately chooses not to save/spends every dollar earned’.
Just fools and their money being parted.
Those “fools” live with a poor educational system, sub-living wages, and are constantly tempted with luxeries. But who’s the fool? The fool who sucumbs to their temptations or the fool who can’t empathize with the plight of others?
Most of the people that I know that make decent money don’t use the service, but the people that work at restaurants or do gig work occasionally do… I don’t understand
My 1 year dashpass expiring was the best thing to happen to me. Lost 10+ pounds in a month just eating pb&j or pb&banana for lunch. Also saved like $300 a month.
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Okay, now it’s $74. Now what?
Well it’s a start for savings
Ah yes fuck over the guy trying to stay afloat himself by delivering food
He doesn’t have to accept
Seeing things like this make me happy that I
- live in a state that banned junk fees.
- live just far enough outside of a metro area that these services don’t deliver to me so I don’t have to worry about being tempted to order from them.
Hear hear for living too far away from DD to be tempted by it. I used to waste a lot of money on it back in like 2021/22, but I moved to a town whose only “fast food” is a burger grill that’s attached to the gas station and run by exactly one guy and if he’s on break when you show up then you can either wait until he’s done or leave and go to the grocery store.
