Farid

I once had a laptop with (I think) Swedish kb (that I bought during my studies in Latvia), but it wasn’t this loaded. Judging by the comments, this seems to be a mixed Scandinavian kb layout, for multiple languages.

Somebody is going to comment that it’s the loss button any minute now.

The key to the right of Å is you looking at this keyboard.

Of course it’s not new new, the CPU is 10 years old. But who would think that it is?

Ok, I think I now understand the point of this thread. The implication is that some people might assume that these are brand new machines that will have software support for years to come. Even though, that’s confusing to me, as no new machine with those specs costs only 200 Euros. Like, that CPU alone, if used, cost 40-60 Euros. But IMO it’s still a stretch to call this a scam, as they are selling what they are selling. Can these machines run W11 right now? Yes. If the buyer expects something else for that price, it’s on them. The target audience could still be tech-savvy ppl who just need an older machine for simple stuff and W11 is pre-installed there just for convenience.

What does it matter that Microsoft considers it piracy? If they got the keys for cheap somewhere, it’s a real licensed version anyway and will work fine.
I can order retro emulation handhelds from China and it will arrive with 1000s of ROMs, which is literal piracy, but that doesn’t make it a scam.

Not officially, but I have, in the past, installed W11 on a computer from 2010. And it worked fine, all things considered.

But are you certain they aren’t new and this is a scam? I’m interested to know how you determined those are used.

Btw, where does it say “Nuovo”? I can’t find it. Is it not on the screenshot?

But “e-waste” means something so outadet that it’s useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.

And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it’s heavily used equipment?

Do you mean you wouldn’t consider it a scam if it has W10 preinstalled instead? How much is MS Office anyway? I know there are $5 W11 keys all over the place.

That seems like an entirely different problem from the one being discussed.

Could you explain why you consider these overpriced/scam? If those use new parts and come with warranty, at least the top one, seems fine. Can you do a breakdown of what it should cost?

My Windows PC has i5-6500 in it and I definitely don’t consider it e-waste.